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작성일 : 15-11-14 17:51
[MLB] 류현진 다르빗슈 이와쿠마 war 비교
 글쓴이 : 천원짜리딱
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다르빗슈 

bwar 4년 통산 12.8 -> 연평균 3.2

fwar 4년 통산 12.9 -> 연평균 3.25

이와쿠마

bwar 4년 통산 13.9 -> 연평균 3.5

fwar 4년 통산 9.3 -> 연평균 2.3


류현진 

bwar 3년 통산 5.2 -> 연평균 1.7

fwar 3년 통산 7.5 -> 연평균 2.5


참고로 

구로다 

7년 통산 fwar 23.7 (평균 3.4)

다나카 

2년 fwar 6.3 (평균 3.15)




개처발림 

이걸보면 다르빗슈 이와쿠마는 사이영 2,3위고 류현진은 근처도 못가는지 알수있음 


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알림:공격적인 댓글이나 욕설, 인종차별적인 글, 무분별한 특정국가 비난글등 절대 삼가 바랍니다.
스파이더맨 15-11-14 17:55
   
그냥 꺼지세요...

흔하디 흔한 일뽕님

뭘 어쩌자는 건지 모르겠네 ㅎㅎ
아라미스 15-11-14 17:58
   
아네 일뽕님 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
di0o0ib 15-11-14 18:23
   
주워 담으려 해도 잘 안되죠?
일비아 15-11-14 18:27
   
so what?
cypher1004 15-11-14 18:34
   
아 ㅅㅂ 또 힘들게 하네..

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아 ㅅㅂ 좃나 힘들어..
하얀그림자 15-11-14 19:43
   
날조하네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 내가  스탯 뜻 알려줬는데
개념을 이해를 못했구나 아직 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
왜 류현진이 3년간이냐?
올해 한게임도 안나왔잖아?
나누기2루 해야지 3으로 하니까 타격이 크지 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
날조하는거봐라 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
그러면서 다르비슈도 3으로 해야 하는데 4로했네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
그래도 다르빗슈는 33%밖에 손해 안보네
류현진은  50% 손해보는거야
니 계산대로 하는건
구단에서 보는  기여도다
가성비를 의미하지
그럴려면  년봉도 같이 언급해야 하는게 순리 아니냐?
류뚱 년봉은 다르비슈의 년봉의 44%다
2014년봉 류 440만
다르빗슈 1000만이야
이 방숭아
니 계산대로라면
류현진 28승15패하는 동안
다르빗슈 60승 29패정도 해야 가성비를 맞춘단다
달르빗슈 몇승했냐?39승 25패다
ㄱㅄ ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


이 빙시나 니 자료대로 하려면 년봉과 년동해야 되는거야
포스팅비용하고 년봉까지 계산해봤냐?
왜 니 편의대로 날조하냐???? ㅋㅋㅋ
     
천원짜리딱 15-11-14 19:53
   
왜 국뽕들은 선수기량비교하는데 가성비를 들먹이는지 모르겠네

지도 순수 기량면에선 개처발리는걸 아는건가
          
하얀그림자 15-11-14 20:00
   
선수 기량 평가하면 부상 당한 기간 빼야지 이 방숭아
니가 구단주냐?
부상당한 기간까지 집어 넣게???
2로 나눠야지 왜 3으로 나누냐? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
               
천원짜리딱 15-11-14 20:02
   
2013년 기준 다르빗슈 war 5.8 이와쿠마 7.0 류현진 3.3
     
천원짜리딱 15-11-14 19:54
   
급 안맞는 선수랑 비교해서 죄송합니다 ㅠㅠ

류현진은 타자와 준이치 우에하라 고지 와다 츠요시 요정도 수준이랑 비교해야될듯^^
     
천원짜리딱 15-11-14 19:58
   
그리고 war라는 스탯이 구단에서 연봉분석하는데 쓰는 스탯이아님

대체선수 대비 기여도를 나타내는 지표임

 전체적인 기여도를 아우르는 세이버지표기 때문에 war 몇당 연봉 어느정도가 적당하다 이런 계산이 나오는거임 야알못아
ahaWkd7 15-11-14 19:48
   
류현진 2년뛴거밖에 모르겠는데.... 3년?
경기안뛴것도 포함시키는거야?
일뽕짓 하는애들이 그렇지머. 오죽 ㅄ이면 일뽕짓 하겠나
     
천원짜리딱 15-11-14 19:53
   
국뽕야알못들은 war가 뭔지모르나?

한경기도 못뛰었으면 0인거임
          
하얀그림자 15-11-14 20:03
   
이 개병시나 WAR계산은 팬그라프와 베이스볼 레펄런스에서 만든 개념이다
그래서 Bwar Fwar그러는거야 거기 들어가봐라
게임뛴 년수로 계산하지
데뷔년도로 계산하지 않는단다
저번에는 카가와 부상당했다고 1년 반으로 치고 손흥민도 2년이 아니라 1년 반동안 카가ㅘ 기록 세우나 보자더니
왜 니 편한 대로 자료를 조작하냐?
천원짜리딱 15-11-14 19:52
   
그리고 류현진 부상아웃빼면 다르빗슈도 뺄거있고 이와쿠마도 첫시즌 불펜오간거랑 이번시즌 반정도 날린것도 감안해야지 ㅋㅋㅋ

단일시즌 워리어하이 기록으로 비교해도 류현진 개처발리는데 ㅋㅋㅋ

누적도 처발리고 임팩트도 처발리고
     
하얀그림자 15-11-14 20:06
   
이  개병시나 니가 노리는건 늦게 MLB 데뷔할 수록 불리해지는 걸 노리는거다
팬그라프나 베이스볼레펄런스 들어가봐라 니식대로 계산하나 내식대로 계산하나?
니식대로 계산하려면 년봉과 포스팅비용 승수까지 다 봐야된다
구단주들이 보는 자료란다
팬이 보는 자료가 아니지 ㄱㅄ나 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
          
천원짜리딱 15-11-14 20:11
   
2013년 기준 다르빗슈 war 5.8 이와쿠마 7.0 류현진 3.3

다르빗슈 사이영 2위, 이와쿠마 사이영 3위, 류현진 0표 득표
천원짜리딱 15-11-14 19:56
   
2013년 기준 다르빗슈 war 5.8 이와쿠마 7.0 류현진 3.몇
아케마 15-11-14 21:02
   
예상대로 war 이군요. 예전에도 올라온 떡밥이라 거기 댓글들 많은데...그리고 다나카 fwar 은 5.3 이네요.
한마디 하자면 fwar 과 bwar 적용방식도 다르고 연봉상정이나 밥값했냐는 지표가 될순 있겠지만
저 수치를 그대로 선수 능력치라고 보면 오류에 빠지기 쉽상이죠..

커쇼 war은 다른투수 학살하는 수준이고 그레인키나 다르빗슈는 절반수준이죠..범가너는 더 아래..
그렇다고 두세배급 선수일까요. 범가너 war은 류현진보다 아래인데 범가너가 류현진 아래인가요.
다르빗슈와 범가너는 비교 대상도 못되겠군요. 저라면 둘중에 범가너를 고를듯한데..
뭐 이런식으로 따지면 현실적인 느낌과 수치가 어긋나는 선수 수두룩합니다. 차라리 스탯나올때가 나았는데..
 
 
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